Remote Turbo Sohc

[Hybrid_Coupe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(siege911 @ Jun 27 2006, 08:11 AM) [snapback]102003[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Resistance98EX @ Jun 27 2006, 05:59 AM) [snapback]102000[/snapback]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(siege911 @ Jun 24 2006, 10:01 AM) [snapback]101923[/snapback]

nah i've heard of these things being done... on firebirds and camaros. This setup is for those who don't have any room for a turbo in the engine bay.

Smooth, the lag would be the same as a normal turbo setup. Try taking a straw, plugging the end with your finger and blowing into it. Hard to do, right? Now, take an 8 foot straw and do the same thing. The air doesn't take time to get to the plugged end because there's already air in there. There wouldn't be anymore lag than a normal turbo setup because of this principle.

But yeah, i think it's a stupid idea. Just do a normal turbo.
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please tell me your joking with that post? but yeah... it is a pointless waste of time.
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you think i'm joking?

i'm an aerospace engineer... i can prove it to you mathematically if you want

trust me...
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you can take the degree and shove it...i dont care...i know what your gunna talk about... headloss, fluid dynamics...But it doesnt matter what your text book says...It matter what happens in real life..and i can PHYSICALLY prove it to you on a dyno, you can not compare fluid dynamics to the way a motor flows...they dont flow based on your text book, The turbo will take longer to spool, case closed. due to several reason. I can explain it to you in lay-mens terms on engines if youd like, since obviously your engineering degree didnt teach you much about what happens in the real world...
God people that get engineering degrees piss me off...they always claim that they know EVERYTHING when the fact is, they know what a text book taught them, and thats all that they think matters...Get some real world experience...go build a turbo car then tell me i dont know what im talking about.
Your theory is great, but theres only one flaw...your talking about a straw...that is at atmospherice pressure......Now...We all know that motors do NOT run in atmospheric....look at a boost gauges...They read vacuum...Why? because motors pull air, Now we have (Lets just use my motor as an example) 2.5" diameter straw, that is under CONSTANT vacuum, Now you have to fill all That space with air. You see building boost on a motor, would be more like Blowing up a balloon than blowing into a small straw.
Thats the first part, Now you also have the problem that the turbo is way far back on the exhaust...We all know exhaust gas, loses temperature and velocity as it travels down the exhaust...Now, do we all know what actually spins the turbo? Well, One primary Thing that spins the turbo is the heat generated by the exhaust gasses. I think thats enough said.

[Calesta]

Ok, so you've got two engineers telling you that it'll work. Trust me, it will. You just can't use the same size turbo that you would use inside the engine bay. Adjusting the wheel and housing sizes for the denser colder air will make the system work very well. I just wish I knew the equations I needed to size something in a remote setup. Actually- I probably do know them- but I'm too lazy to work things out now.

[Siege911]

resistance... thanks for explaining that. You're right, I only have theory, and until I build my own turbo engine I won't have experience with the real thing. I'm not trying to be sarcastic either, I'm glad you explained it to me. And I know how you feel about engineering, it pisses me off to a degree too, that we just get theory and neglect all the actual forces in our calculations like friction...

Although it would be funny to see someone's backseat in a civic taken up by a tiny turbo with tons of piping lol...

[robert]

life sure would be easier if you just got a bolt on kit

[Hybrid_Coupe]

Oh and to correct it if anyone mis-understood me...i never EVER said it wouldnt work. I said it would be laggy if you used a larger sized turbo. Thats all i said...Cause yes it would work...However you would have to use a smaller turbo, and you wouldnt be able to expect impressive gains with it.

[Calesta]

Yup, can't use the same size.

siege- where are you in school? We had to worry about friction losses in upper level classes, even for BS level degrees.

[dubcac]

We had to deal with friction losses as well.

[steronz]

i remember seeing on H-T a while back an integra with exactly what you're describing... back seat removed, turbo sitting right there. they used some gigantic dump truck turbo at 3psi. claimed there wasn't much lag... never followed up to see how well it worked, but they had vids, so it was at least functional. worth checking into if you're dead set on the idea.

[Siege911]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Calesta @ Jun 28 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]102090[/snapback]</div>

Yup, can't use the same size.

siege- where are you in school? We had to worry about friction losses in upper level classes, even for BS level degrees.
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University of Cincinnati... I know we deal with it, but in most cases the tougher variables are taken out (laminar flow, inviscid, etc).

Do you have a link of that gigantic turbo steronz? I'd like to see it.

[Hybrid_Coupe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(siege911 @ Jun 29 2006, 09:31 PM) [snapback]102115[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Calesta @ Jun 28 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]102090[/snapback]

Yup, can't use the same size.

siege- where are you in school? We had to worry about friction losses in upper level classes, even for BS level degrees.
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University of Cincinnati... I know we deal with it, but in most cases the tougher variables are taken out (laminar flow, inviscid, etc).

Do you have a link of that gigantic turbo steronz? I'd like to see it.
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yeah me too...i find it hard to believe if the guys with v8's are only using t66's or smaller on their remote mounts an integra would use anything larger than that...i mean i have a pte67(t67) on my car and even in the engine bay it doesn reach full boost till about 5700...