Toda Stroker Kit

[imported_comutek]

IMO you can have it all. it just costs money.

[dubcac]

Originally posted by comutek@Nov 23 2004, 03:44 PM
IMO you can have it all. it just costs money.

Werd. Out of these 3, pick 2: Cheap, Fast, Reliable.

[NstyGrnHatch]

I was gonna post that up, but i figured he would already know that. But it kinda contradicts what he wants. Fast & Reliable.

[hondalover]

im really in a bind trying to explain what i want, i have a freind with a ITR hatch. i love riding in the car. its way to fun and thats what i want. the car is reliable, fast, daily drivable, and cost effective to what he has.
if any one has riden in a GSR hatch, crx or anything with a ITR swap you know what i mean and what i want.
yeah i could just go out and buy a ITR swap but there is alot of work, frankly to much work to get the motor in. and i do plan on putting the ITR pistons and rods in while im at it. but it wont matter if i put the cams in and springs. my car will have VTEC kick in really hard. when i put the pistons and rods in, then ill have more low end torgue, like hondas have any as it is, and more power throught he band of things.
ive talked to alot of people about the cams and they say they will be fine with the springs. they basically told me all a ITR is is a b16 block bored 20 over with more agresive cams and head work done. so it will be fine until i can get the bottom end biult.

[dubcac]

You're wrong, an ITR is not a bored B16. The ITR/B16/GSR/LS all have the same bore size. The B16 has a shorter stroke, and a shorter deck height, which is why you can't use ITR/GSR/LS internals in a B16 block. There is no more work to put an ITR swap in than a B16 swap. Putting in pistons and rods won't give you more low end torque. I don't know what you consider "fast," but an ITR in a hatch isn't fast...I'd say it's quick. It seems to me like you've been talking to the wrong people about your tech info....time to do some research of your own and learn the right info.

[CivicSi04']

Originally posted by dubcac@Nov 25 2004, 02:34 AM
You're wrong, an ITR is not a bored B16. The ITR/B16/GSR/LS all have the same bore size. The B16 has a shorter stroke, and a shorter deck height, which is why you can't use ITR/GSR/LS internals in a B16 block. There is no more work to put an ITR swap in than a B16 swap. Putting in pistons and rods won't give you more low end torque. I don't know what you consider "fast," but an ITR in a hatch isn't fast...I'd say it's quick. It seems to me like you've been talking to the wrong people about your tech info....time to do some research of your own and learn the right info.

thats page ownage right there ppl. im in total agreement. i mean an itr hatch is pretty quik but its nothin out of control. it is something that is usable at the track and on the street tho. engine swap sounds like the best decision here!!!

[hondalover]

yeah there is a lot of work of putting an ITR motor into a crx, first of its a hydro tranny, crxs are cable, obds are completely different, thats work that need to be done, and theres alot of random stuff tyou need to do. if i was to put a ITR motor in my rex its atlest a week to two weeks of work.
actually a low 13 second honda is preity damn fast, yeah theres other things that are faster but its preity rare to come across a honda thats street driven thats fast.
ive seen fast turbo cars and shit like that rocking 12s or 11s, but all motor 13s is preity fast.
he could put his nitrous system on the motor and possible rock 12s. but if he toasts the motor, there 4 grand down the shitter.
maby ill look into this a little more, but if i do what i want with the motor, its going to be preity damn fast. and if you think a 13s all motor crx isnt fast, your all looking to be driving in a damn death wish.
yeah ive talked to poeple with 10 and 11 sec crxs but they have thousands of dollars into the car, and its not street drivable or comftorable to drive. so ill sacrafice a second or two so i can drive the car on the road and do some fun shit with the thousands of dollars im going to save.

[hondalover]

i also forgotto ask, i may be wrong on the itr internals, but wouldnt making your engine size larger increase your torgue, i know it increases your hp, so it also would help the torgue, if im wrong explaine to me how i am. im not tryin to sound cocky but i want to know why im wrong.

thanks

[imported_Lacuna]

Ha ha hondalover you are correct in saying that increasing displacement will normally increase torque but an ITR swap is a B16 so you would not increase displacement as dubcac said earlier.

[hondalover]

will you explain this to me, makeing a 1.6 liter motor into a 1.8 liter motor wont increase torque and horse power levels. thats doesnt make any sense at all. bigger motor=bigger power, but not in this case. can some explain this to me, im completly lost, you all can see my dillema. thanks