Lsd Tranny?

[imported_Slick]

I was reading on a b16a swap for my Civic. The swap comes w/ a hydro tranny, and for an additional few hundred you can have an LSD Tranny. Do I want the LSD? Whats the difference?

[imported_DOHCturbohatch]

2 wheel peel rules! LOL.. overall LSD will help with launching and cornering. LSD more or less puts the power to both front wheels so u dont have the infamous "1 wheel peel". It helps around corners, since both wheels have power it pulls you around the corner instead of sliding like a car without LSD.

I wish I had LSD!

[simplegreen]

http://www.civicland.com/forums/index.php?...t=ST&f=28&t=144


LSD has nothing to do with two wheels off the launch, non LSD trannies will spin two wheels too if you have the power/torque to spin them.

Read above.

[Toyz-B-Us]

I thought that the one axle is just along for the ride on non LSD trannys
Just kiddin, good answer.

[simplegreen]

Originally posted by Toyz-B-Us@Jul 17 2003, 10:28 AM
I thought that the one axle is just along for the ride on non LSD trannys
Just kiddin, good answer.

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[imported_toyarmy]

what are you going to do with your car?

yes lsd is always a nice thing to have, but if you dont NEED it, you could put that 300d somewhere else.

[imported_DOHCturbohatch]

Taken directly from Quaife's site.

The Quaife Differential powers both drive wheels under nearly all conditions, instead of just one. With an ordinary open differential, standard on most cars, a lot of precious power is wasted during wheelspin under acceleration. This happens because the open differential shifts power to the wheel with less grip (along the path of least resistance). The Quaife, however, does just the opposite. It senses which wheel has the better grip, and biases the power to that wheel. It does this smoothly and constantly, and without ever completely removing power from the other wheel.

In drag-race style, straight-line acceleration runs, this results in a close to ideal 50/50 power split to both drive wheels, resulting in essentially twice the grip of an ordinary differential (they don't call open diffs "peglegs" for nothing).

In cornering, while accelerating out of a turn, the Quaife biases power to the outside wheel, reducing inside-wheel spin. This allows the driver to begin accelerating earlier, exiting the corner at a higher speed.

The Quaife also controls loss of traction when the front wheels are on slippery surfaces such as ice and snow or mud, providing the appropriate biased traction needed to overcome these adverse conditions. The Quaife Differential provides constant and infinitely variable drive. Power is transferred automatically without the use of normal friction pads or plates seen in other limited-slip designs.

[imported_Slick]

Thank you all very much for your help, you've answered my question. Keep Truckin'

Well I will say this with my honda knowledge...

LSD Trannys, good if you DONT plan on building your motor

1. Because the stock LSD WILL NOT HOLD if you plan on making more power and put it to the ground...so why buy a LSD tranny when the LSD is going to break and you have to buy a new one?

2. I believe there are two types of LSDs, now the ones that come in the Type R, CTR, and LSDs you can get from japan in the b16a, h22, and so forth are setup for road racing, i think. they are not 50-50 each wheel spinning type deal, one wheel will still grip more than the other if one starts to lose tracing, the 50-50 traction from most type of LSD's will continusouly sprin both wheels even if decides to lose traction...

3. Where is calesta?, he explains this much better than i...

[imported_NineFiftyFour]

B16A - You need to learn more about real LSD's.

WHY?

Because you are giving out wrong information about them.

LSD Trannys, good if you DONT plan on building your motor
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LSD's are good for ANYONE, built or not.

Because the stock LSD WILL NOT HOLD if you plan on making more power and put it to the ground...so why buy a LSD tranny when the LSD is going to break and you have to buy a new one?
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How much power do you want to put down? My OEM HONDA LSD handles about 600WHP.

2. I believe there are two types of LSDs, now the ones that come in the Type R, CTR, and LSDs you can get from japan in the b16a, h22, and so forth are setup for road racing, i think.[/b]

There are indeed 2 basic types of LSD's.

Viscous - (gears)
Clutch type - (plates)

Then there are 2 more within those 2 basic types.

Automatic torque biased
Non-automatic torque biased

It all depends on WHICH LSD has been installed and that will tell you what it was designed for. MOST Honda/Acura OEM LSD's are Viscous ATB. There however, are a few that are stronger than others due to parts used.

they are not 50-50 each wheel spinning type deal, one wheel will still grip more than the other if one starts to lose tracing, the 50-50 traction from most type of LSD's will continusouly sprin both wheels even if decides to lose traction...
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MOST LSD's are considered 50/50 because when in a straight line, they split the power evenly. Yes, if one tire starts to loose traction, the power is sent to the one that has the grip, thus increasing your available traction. If BOTH tires loose traction, then the LSD will go BACK to the 50/50 split until traction is regained. That way, you don't pull to one side or the other when you finally regain traction.

Make sense?


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