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i wouldnt even call that a civic. thats like saying papadakis and aem race a civic. its just a shell. you could put a jet engine in there. doesnt mean ...

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10-08-2005, 12:31 AM   #11
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i wouldnt even call that a civic. thats like saying papadakis and aem race a civic. its just a shell. you could put a jet engine in there. doesnt mean its a jet powered civic, lol.

seeing that thing pull a wheelie was tight though.
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10-10-2005, 12:07 PM   #12
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yeah that was a race car lol. a nice one at that but i think the original poster meant can it be done in a daily driver sort of way lol

There is a ugly ass hatchback with an s2k motor in it, yet i dont think is cheap enough for the common civic driver.
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10-10-2005, 06:46 PM   #13
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why exactly are civics fwd? you lose alot of power on fwd cars dont you? there is def an advantage as far as control of the car goes....my civic sedan does better in the snow than my Pilot sometimes, even if its in 4wd. so why would they do it this way instead of rear...is what im asking.
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10-10-2005, 06:56 PM   #14
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i take my "fast civic" tearing out in the snow lol love it.
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10-10-2005, 08:23 PM   #15
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Originally posted by ledzep09@Oct 10 2005, 11:46 AM
why exactly are civics fwd? you lose alot of power on fwd cars dont you? there is def an advantage as far as control of the car goes....my civic sedan does better in the snow than my Pilot sometimes, even if its in 4wd. so why would they do it this way instead of rear...is what im asking.
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for one you get better overall handling / rain / snow ect. It's also cheaper to make a FWD coompaired to RWD. no long drive shafts or tannys. Plus with all of these motors now adays being sub 2 liters why would you want rwd.
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10-11-2005, 04:03 AM   #16
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Damn, another one with misinformation...

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Originally posted by ledzep09@Oct 10 2005, 12:46 PM
why exactly are civics fwd? you lose alot of power on fwd cars dont you? there is def an advantage as far as control of the car goes....my civic sedan does better in the snow than my Pilot sometimes, even if its in 4wd. so why would they do it this way instead of rear...is what im asking.
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You lose less power through a FWD transmission. The FWD is easier to drive because the front wheels are just dragging the rest of the car behind it- try pulling a shopping cart vs pushing- it's easier to go straight without worrying about steering.

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for one you get better overall handling / rain / snow ect.* It's also cheaper to make a FWD coompaired to RWD. no long drive shafts or tannys. Plus with all of these motors now adays being sub 2 liters why would you want rwd.
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Nope. Overall handling is better in a RWD car than a FWD car. The FWD car is easier to drive in most cases because that's how they're set up, but in a performance application, the RWD handles better than the FWD (all other things kept the same). You have better balance with the RWD layout, better contact patch control/usage, and better traction under acceleration.

FWD is popular because it saves space, is more efficient (less drivetrain loss), and is easier to drive by people who don't know what they're doing (the general public).
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10-11-2005, 01:52 PM   #17
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In the rain/snow a FWD will be easier to drive because all the weight is where it needs to be, right over the powered wheels. In a performance aspect the weight is transferred to the back as you accelerate, so you?re actually losing traction the faster you go. Obviously this is an advantage to a RWD vehicle. Also the more power you put to the wheels in a FWD the less efficient it becomes compared to a RWD.

Here is a good article on efficiency in different power brackets.

http://www.toymods.org.au/fwd_rwd_awd.html
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