| 08-08-2003, 04:12 AM | #1 |
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Sunday my wife calls me at home and tellsd me the car is acting funny so I go and meet ther where she stopped and it turns out it was just that the splash guard had come loose and it had been scraping the floor, nothing big right? NOT. I went to the dealer to get the splash guard and get it installed, they tell me that the frame of the car has some damage and that they will take it to the body shop to see what can be done under warranty.
I get a call today and the tech tells me that there is EXTENSIVE damage to the frame of the car and that he cant even put in the frame machine to get this looked at more in depth. So I call the dealer I bought it from and they tell me that Hondas are unibiodies and that they dont have any type of frames?(is this so?)and she begins blaming me because I "must have hit some thing to bend whatever it is that is damaged???" the car is in pretty good shape and haas no visible point of impact anywhere on it, my wife has not his anything, basically the car is in the same shape as when I bought it so can anyone please enlighten me as far as the whole unibody/frame thing? and should the dealer have told me about this? I pulled a carfax report and it was clean so my guess is that some one must have wrecked it, fixed it and not reported it to the insurance(so it didnt show at carfax) cliffs: May be getting ripped by one of the biggest Honda edalers in houston... What is the diference between unibodies and frames on hondas? Should the delaer advise you if the car had been wrecked and fixed if they know about it? sorry for the long post but I'm pissed and need to vent....thanks, esteban |
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| 08-08-2003, 04:17 AM | #2 |
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Well a frame is tubular metal that goes the whole way of the car and the body of the car is placed on the frame. A honda and most modern cars use a unibody where the the whole body of the car is the entire structure of the car. I would definitly have the car taken to another body shop to have it put on a frame machine to have measurements taken.
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| 08-08-2003, 04:55 AM | #3 |
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As far as Im concerned Id show honda the carfax form stating no accidents on your part, and ask them how they can sell a car to you or anyone else for that matter that has frame damage?!? They inspect just about everything before selling the car. If I were you I would get a real good lawyer ready If the extent of the damage is expensive and they are not gonna pay or the damage done or replace the full value of the vehicle that is complete B.S
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| 08-08-2003, 05:12 PM | #4 |
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I didn't even think Honda sold cars w/ frame damage, they usually send them off to auctions since they don't become Honda certified. Could be wrong though. They could have not known, (that is what they will claim) but usually after owning the car for a month or more, they won't do anything. Believe me, I have been there only with other component problems.
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| 08-09-2003, 12:16 AM | #5 |
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As it turns out is was all bull crap the damn tech at the other dealer thought he could get my wife for some hefty cash ammounts...
When I took it to the dealer they wanted some ridiculous ammount of $$ for the frame diagnosis and so I took it my mechanic who said they were just trying to get my wife to agree to fix a problem that didnt exist..farkers! the only thing that we did find is that the clips that hole the bumper in place at the bottom are MIA so that is probably the reason why the splash guard fell...any ideas on the cost of these clips? thanks to all esteban |
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| 08-09-2003, 12:20 AM | #6 | |
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as far as them not knowing I think that every car fealer knows when some thing is wrong with any car unless they did an amazing job of fixing it. Carfax shows both cars as clean but if the previous owner did not claim any issues to his insurance then it would not show on carfax....so I guess Im cool, still a bit pissed but cool Damyyum it sthundering like a mofo out here! ok thanks este |
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