CivicLand Honda Civic Forums

User Name
Password
Go Back   CivicLand Honda Civic Forums > The Lounge > Off-Topic

Discuss the Opinion: The New Muscle Car Era thread at the Off-Topic forums at the CivicLand Honda Civic Forums.
Maybe its just me but do you guys think 2000 to 2010 is turning out to be the next muscle car era? Here's why I think we'...

Reply
10-11-2005, 04:12 PM   #1
Cerberus

Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4




Default

Maybe its just me but do you guys think 2000 to 2010 is turning out to be the next muscle car era? Here's why I think we're experiencing it now....or it is soon to come back to North America.

************************************************** ***

In the early 1960's America was embroiled with the Cold War, the Communist threat in Cuba, civil rights and Vietnam. However the feverish consumerism that followed World War II was still calling for bigger and better vehicles and most of all, more horsepower.

The 1960's is thought of as the Classic Car Era, a time when American automakers responded to the threat of imported cars with vehicles like the all new Corvair, Fords' Falcon, and Chryslers' Valiant. These smaller cars were considerably lighter than their predecessors and in 1964 factory-built cars with large displacement engines took over the market. These were the Muscle Cars and names like Camero, Firebird and Barracuda became common household words.

However, despite its popularity, the Clean Air Act of 1970 called for pollution control devices that hampered performance. And then the oil embargo of 1973 limited the supply of gasoline. And by the time congress passed the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) rule in 1978 the Muscle Car was gone forever.

I've always loved the old school muscle cars from the 1960's and am really starting to see similarities to that past. Think about it, just like the 60's, automotive builders are coming out in full force now. We're seeing high hp engines in cars. The Hemi engines are back. Retro cars are in (ie: the charger, gto, etc). Whether you like the imports/domestic, everything is beefy again (unlike any of the past several decades). 350Z, Supra, RX-8, even luxury sedans have muscle car tuner shops (ie: Brabus, AMG, M series BMW's, Rousch, etc). There are so many ways to hop up your car, the gov'ts are going nutz just trying to limit/stop the craze. Turbos, blowers, nos, etc.....the list is endless. Even take a look at the movie industry. The John Travolta's of the past (Grease) have been replaced with the Vin Diesel's of today. Racing their muscle cars in all kinds of action movies (ie: F&F, The Transporter, Ronin, XXX, Gone In 60 Seconds, etc).

However, like the past, gas prices are an ongoing issue. California seems to be the benchmark for future automotive legislation.....but the automotive and perfromance improvement industry seems better than ever. Is this the next muscle car era?
Cerberus is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 05:28 PM   #2
ledzep09

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 325



Send a message via AIM to ledzep09

Default

Actually, I have noticed the very same thing. Every new car coming out seems to have been hopped up on roids, atleast compared to wat they used to be. You can now get an Eclipse with 265 horses stock. Civics are upping the horsepower...because you see all the old muscle cars coming back to life like the GTO and the Charger and frankly the Mustang. I still dont like Stangs but they made a slightly better effort to make them more powefrul and they look much more old-school. I think what happened was Fast and Furious. You had a small import scene in the 90's and Fast and Furious came out. Kids and people everywhere starting juicing up Hondas and Nissans and Supras and (VERY unfrotunately Neons and Cavaliers). Now these American companys are trying to compete by bringing back their muscle cars. every new car you see coming out has part of their ad pitching about their added horsepower. so yeah, ive noticed it too, and i agree.
__________________
'02 Accord Coupe EX-V6
ledzep09 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 05:29 PM   #3
Bryan_M

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Conyers, GA
Posts: 1,518



Send a message via AIM to Bryan_M

Default

i agree mostly and i've been saying it for a few years now. yes muscle cars are back.
__________________
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle ? victorious." ~ Vince Lombardi

2000 Honda Civic EX...totalled
2000 Acura Integra GS...sold
Another 2000 Honda Civic EX...new project
Bryan_M is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 08:04 PM   #4
ledzep09

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 325



Send a message via AIM to ledzep09

Default

yeah they are back in name but they suck. i would never buy an "american" car. they are a horrible investment.



recently saw some guy in a suit standing on the side of a road looking down at his corvette, which he had clearly lost control of and slid off the road and over a hill. reason? poor engineering. they can make horsepower...but can they make something to handle it? no
__________________
'02 Accord Coupe EX-V6
ledzep09 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 08:05 PM   #5
ledzep09

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 325



Send a message via AIM to ledzep09

Default

not as if any car is really a "good investment" some are wiser than tohers though.
__________________
'02 Accord Coupe EX-V6
ledzep09 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 08:33 PM   #6
blkcivic93

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New Orleans, but in GA at the moment
Posts: 240



Send a message via AIM to blkcivic93 Send a message via Yahoo to blkcivic93

Default

i agree as well. ever sense the release of the PT cruiser i've noticed american manufactorers returning to the "retro" look. Hot Rods and muscle cars are on the return. the release of the chevy SSR and HHR, as well as the new mustang...talk of the return of the camaro, and of course the release of the GTO. and chargers will return soon enough, all to battle the import craze. and the release of the Dukes of Hazard movie should also be a suggestion of that very era returning.
__________________
"...staring at the world through my rearview..."
blkcivic93 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 08:35 PM   #7
blkcivic93

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New Orleans, but in GA at the moment
Posts: 240



Send a message via AIM to blkcivic93 Send a message via Yahoo to blkcivic93

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ledzep09@Oct 11 2005, 02:04 PM
recently saw some guy in a suit standing on the side of a road looking down at his corvette, which he had clearly lost control of and slid off the road and over a hill. reason?
<div align="right">[snapback]93397[/snapback]

[/quote]

driver error maybe????
__________________
"...staring at the world through my rearview..."
blkcivic93 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 08:45 PM   #8
ledzep09

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 325



Send a message via AIM to ledzep09

Default

well yeah ...but you missed the point. ive heard lots of friends and and people i know say similar things about corvettes and handling. people the own corvettes. my neighbor is a corvette fanatic but even he admits that they dont handle as sports cars should.
__________________
'02 Accord Coupe EX-V6
ledzep09 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 09:22 PM   #9
Siege911

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 610




Default

Yeah, and I think it's retarded that companies keep coming out with bigger engines when gas prices are skyrocketing and doing nothing to compensate... suv's, v8's, and not many hybrids to help offset the cost... just my opinion, but we need more hybrids!
__________________
98 civic ex sedan...
Boost in progress...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12.../Siege9111.jpg
Siege911 is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
10-11-2005, 09:44 PM   #10
Bryan_M

Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Conyers, GA
Posts: 1,518



Send a message via AIM to Bryan_M

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by siege911@Oct 11 2005, 04:22 PM
Yeah, and I think it's retarded that companies keep coming out with bigger engines when gas prices are skyrocketing and doing nothing to compensate... suv's, v8's, and not many hybrids to help offset the cost... just my opinion, but we need more hybrids!
<div align="right">[snapback]93409[/snapback]

[/quote]
bottom line though is people don't buy hybrids. if more people bought them then i'm sure more companies would make 'em. americans will always love their big v8's, or at least a good bit will.
__________________
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle ? victorious." ~ Vince Lombardi

2000 Honda Civic EX...totalled
2000 Acura Integra GS...sold
Another 2000 Honda Civic EX...new project
Bryan_M is offline
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tire Opinion imported_DIYperformance General Tech 13 05-22-2005 02:48 PM
I Need Your Guy's Opinion On These Wheels! Doughboy Off-Topic 34 02-21-2005 07:01 PM
First Rebuild Need Opinion imported_ecumatt Civic 2 08-15-2004 11:47 AM
Ladies, Need Your Opinion sloEJcivic Off-Topic 15 02-19-2004 07:37 AM

All times are GMT. The time now is 07:15 AM.
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8