Correcting Rear Camber?

[imported_camelian]

heh, sorry I'm always the one asking about camber here but I just got my set of KYB AGX shocks in today and figured i'd fix the rear camber while i'm at it. I've looked around but can't find out what kind of washer (size) and how many I should get? Seems like most people use two..I've got like -2 degrees in the back if I'm remembering correctly. Is there a need to change the stock bolts?

thanks

[imported_comutek]

we have a DIY on this but it isn't out in the DIY directories yet.

[imported_comutek]

here is that write up.

Article Written By:
richie@earthling.net
sourced from honda-tech.com

As always, proceed at your own risk (which is very little), I cannot be responsible for your own stupidity if you mess up your car and cannot follow simple instructions.

Ok, finally got the rear camber in my car fixed. This fix will work on all 92-00 Honda Civics and 94-00 Acura Integras. I believe it will work on older model Honda/Acura cars, but I can't be sure, because I have no hands on experience with them. Only took about 30 minutes to get it up and running. Look at the pictures below.

What you'll need are four 10 x 1.25 45mm bolts (yeah, the box says 60mm, but 60mm was actually too long, I had to use a dremel tool to cut them down to the right length), and washers, depending on how bad your camber is. Total cost of project: $6.49

UPDATE: Some people have been asking whats the difference between this and actually going out and buying a rear camber kit. Below is a picture of an Ingalls rear camber kit



As you can see, it basically does the same thing. The middle parts turns to allow for adjustability. The cost for this part is $130. If you want to pay 20 times as much for adjustability go ahead, this fix is for people have their car set at a given height, and are not constantly raising/lowering their car (i.e. coilovers)
Remember, everytime you raise/lower your car, you're changing the geometry of your suspension, and therefore, requres an alignment to be done to prevent premature tire wear.



The new bolts



New bolts (left) Old bolts (right) and washers



Perfect example on why you NEED a camber kit!



These are the bolts you need to remove and replace



New bolts and washers installed



Look how straight my rear tires are



How many washers should you put in? I think a good estimate is one per inch dropped. But after you put them in, get a level (as shown above), then a block of wood to hold up against the tire. If the bubble is between the line, then your camber is in acceptable range. (Honda specs is 0 +- one degree in the front, and -0.2 +- one degree in the rear) The acutal amount of camber on the wheel shown above is -0.24 Be sure to go get an alignment after you put on your camber kit! Just because your camber is straight, your tires may still wear because of incorrect toe. I had 50% tread on my tires, after my camber kit install, a week past and the tires were down to the wires because the toe was off.



Bubble between the lines is good.

[Toyz-B-Us]

I have used the above mentioned method on 6 different Civics and Integras and it works great and can be done for for less than $10. It takes about 2 washers for a 1.5 to 1.8 inch drop and about 3 washers if it is over 2" of drop from my experience.