Sway Bar Options.

[2000Si]

I figure now that I have both a front (stock) and rear (CTR replica) strut tower brace that I'd begin shopping for some sway bars.

I've searched for 00 Civic Si front/rear sway bar sizes, and I can't find them. Anyone have them at hand?

What's your opinions on different bars? I searched for a Neuspeed rear swaybar to find it was 340 or so dollars. I always hear Neuspeed is top notch on quality.

Opinions? Suggestions?


and I have no idea why the fuck I put this in here, mods admins move this to suspension at your leisure. lol

[Calesta]

Moved for you.

I don't know the stock sway bar sizes, but I'm pretty sure that the non Type-R bars are 14mm on the Integras. I would assume it to be the same or pretty close on the 99-00 Civic Si. Just be aware that even 1mm makes a HUGE difference.

My Civic's setup is 26mm up front and 17mm in the rear. Coupled with braces everywhere, poly bushings, and custom spring rates on the Tein suspension, the car is actually very neutral in turns. You can control the understeer/oversteer of the car very well with just the throttle, and that's pretty rare in a FWD setup without making it too twitchy.

If you're looking at throwing down more than $300 for a rear sway bar, I would recommend either the Suspension Techniques (right at $300) or the Comptech (just under $400) setup. Both have integrated rear lower braces, which you'll need to prevent rear subframe tearout with the large rear sway bar. I was going to get the Comptech myself to further tune my suspension, but the ST unit has been used by quite a few people with consistently excellent results. I would recommend both over the Neuspeed bar.

[2000Si]

Excellent information Mike, thank you very much. I'll go research Suspension Technique (I had those some ST springs on my Escort and I did like them quite a bit) and Comptech right now.

[Calesta]

You're welcome, and good luck. Don't buy the Neuspeed sways. They make great braces, but there are much better choices out there for the money when it comes to sway bars.

Oh my sways are by Eibach.

[2000Si]

hmmm... after just a few minutes of searching. I find a front bar for 339 and a rear for 200.

Next site I find I find a 15/16" front for 162 and a 3/4" rear for 161.

I think I might have to bookmark this while I finish researching...

http://www.sportcompactonly.com/product.as...&c=55&l=2&pg=14

[Calesta]

That 3/4 rear is pretty much the same as my 17mm rear... but the front is a bit smaller. With those bars, you'll be neutral to oversteering depending on how you set up the spring rates.

By Eibach sway kit was less than $400 for both bars.

[2000Si]

Ok now I'm getting more and more confused. I started to change numbers around to figure out the dimensions of each bar in both mm and inches.

Supposedly (although I'm not sure of it) the stock Si has a 26 mm bar (1.0244").

The ST front 15/16" diameter bar in mm is 381 and 406.4mm. Did they mean 15/16mm? Also, how would I be able to be neutral all the way around? If a larger rear bar will make me oversteer slightly more, I don't want it. (Since I'd go from 13mm to 19.05mm with the rear bar in that link)

[ledzep09]

i dont understand oversteer/understeer. maybe at first but..just adjust yourself to it. that could have been a retarded comment

[Calesta]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2000Si @ Nov 27 2005, 07:55 PM) [snapback]96981[/snapback]</div>

Ok now I'm getting more and more confused. I started to change numbers around to figure out the dimensions of each bar in both mm and inches.

Supposedly (although I'm not sure of it) the stock Si has a 26 mm bar (1.0244").

The ST front 15/16" diameter bar in mm is 381 and 406.4mm. Did they mean 15/16mm? Also, how would I be able to be neutral all the way around? If a larger rear bar will make me oversteer slightly more, I don't want it. (Since I'd go from 13mm to 19.05mm with the rear bar in that link)
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Looks like your stock sizes are 26mm up front and 13mm in the rear.

http://automobiles.honda.com/certified/spe...&ModelYear=2000

Huh? A 15/16 inch thick bar is about 24mm. Going smaller with your front bar and larger in the rear will cause your car to have more oversteer, or just less understeer. I think a 24/19mm setup wouldn't be bad at all. Considering that mine with 26/17 felt pretty good, you could probably run 24/19 with softer springs in the rear than I did and still have a fairly neutral car.

As for the larger bar making you oversteer more, you don't oversteer at all in stock form. Trust me. Just about every single Civic is set up to understeer from the factory.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ledzep09 @ Nov 27 2005, 10:43 PM) [snapback]96986[/snapback]</div>

i dont understand oversteer/understeer. maybe at first but..just adjust yourself to it. that could have been a retarded comment
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Uh.......... no. Adjust the car properly, then get used to it.

[2000Si]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Calesta @ Nov 27 2005, 01:46 AM) [snapback]96918[/snapback]</div>

That 3/4 rear is pretty much the same as my 17mm rear... but the front is a bit smaller. With those bars, you'll be neutral to oversteering depending on how you set up the spring rates.

By Eibach sway kit was less than $400 for both bars.
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You know what Cal, my bad... I read that backwards. I swore I saw neutral to understeering.

I'd say 350 or so shipped for a set of ST F/R bars is a good deal. I think I'm gonna have to add this to my suspension setup. eventually.